CNLP 520: Stephen MR Covey on Scaling an Organization Beyond Its Founder, Growing in Stephen Covey’s House, and How to Build a High Trust Team


Stephen MR Covey talks about his father, Stephen Covey’s legacy, advice for leaders whose children grow up in the public eye, how to grow an organization beyond the founder, why command and control leadership is dead and how to build a high trust organization.

Welcome to episode 520 of the podcast. Listen and access the show’s notes below or search for the Carey Nieuwhof Leadership Podcast on Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts and listen for free.

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Trust and Inspire: How Really Great Leaders Unleash Greatness in Others by Stephen M. R. Covey

The Seven Habits of Highly Effective People by Stephen R. Covey


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